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To operationalise Sheffield as 'an outdoor city' I suggest an 'Outdoor Hotel and Hostel' for those arriving by train, bus or bike, who want to explore the Peak District. Intergenerational and successful in many European cities.

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Nov 6, 2023Liked by Dan Hayes

Whatever happens on the site, we must make sure that the final 100m or so of the Porter Brook are improved. The Brook should be renaturalised, brought into public view and so on. This opportunity must not be missed.

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Nov 6, 2023Liked by Dan Hayes

Filling the hole? Bus stops please. Rail-bus connectivity is non-existent. I remember that the four-lane crossing and covered walkway to the Bus Station was once styled a Transportation Hub! It never was. Services to/from the Bus Station had been run down for years.

Maybe reinstate something like the No. 60, that seemed to run every 5-10 minutes through the city centre on its way up West Street to Fulwood(?). Problem. Pedestrianisation has moved city centre bus stops to the periphery, except for across the top of the Moor, but only one-way. Why not make Furnival Gate two-way and a proper bus Hub.

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With porter brook running through the area this could make a very nice park. Perhaps with street food venders and regular markets. Why do we need another office block? The site as poor access and allowing vehicles parking would increase air pollution and congestion it’s Sheaf Street and the Taxis that are a big chunk of the Nitrogen Dioxide pollution but particulate matter is the main cause of ill health. Building another office block at this gateway to the city is very twentieth century and a private developer does not own the land great!let’s be creative

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Nov 6, 2023Liked by Dan Hayes

The station desperately needs better drop off and pick up facilities and better taxi access both in and out of the station. I get how this land may have been held for an HS2 station but, given that this won’t be happening and the owner is a Railway related company, we should now be given the station that the City deserves! At present we don’t need any more offices or flats. Help people to easily access the railway network!

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Nov 6, 2023Liked by Dan Hayes

I agree with the above comments about the train station. The square and water features are lovely but the road in/out is chaotic and sometimes dangerous, as taxis jostle for space with people dropping off/picking up family & friends. Creating a one-way system could help to alleviate the congestion. It might also be useful to separate taxis from other traffic and create a very short stay (10 mins max) pick up/drop off area. Bus stops would be ideal and might discourage people from driving or getting taxis. I regularly get the train and then the 52 bus home, but if it’s late then I get a taxi rather than walk up to the bus stop alone in the dark. Understand the need for flats/offices but more people living/working in the city will mean more demand on trains and more traffic -- so, thinking long term, sorting out the station should be a priority. We need to future-proof our public transport systems. A city the size of Sheffield should at the very least have a decent train station!

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The area around Castle gate and Wingate is a greater priority for development. There was apparently government money to develop the Sheffield castle site and plans were proposed but no sign of any work. The area is being ghettoised and an eyesore for any visitors staying at the hotel's there.

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It begger's belief that the minute drop off/pick up/taxi zone area is continually congested/overcrowded and has been for the past 20 years, yet here we have a domain space that could eliminate this congestion overnight.

It may be a little too late but surely it doesn't take a genius to work out the we have this major congestion every hour of every day and yet a massive area of domain land running bang next to the station!!!!!!!

God give me strength.............

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Currently it is very difficult to pick up or drop anyone off at the railway station in Sheffield when it is busy. This is a real barrier to some people using the train and causes a terrible pollution hotspot with vehicles stuck in queues which can go all the way back along Cross Turner Street and Fornham Street out onto Suffolk Road where they also cause a potenatially dangerous situation with traffic switching lanes with no warning to get round the stationary traffic. However, next to this chaos is the large area this article talks about. If the council and the site owner's actually cared about the people of Sheffield and about making railways more accessible for a wider range of people they would take this opportunity to use this space to create a pick up/drop off area with the capacity to cope with the demand. At the same time access from buses could be improved. The area could be one which would be safe and which would cut the pollution caused by the slow moving and stationary traffic. They could create a more accessible station and use the rest of the space to extend the attractive space which exists for pedestrians in front of the station. Of course this won't happen because the council, network rail and the site owners do not want to create a more accessible rail network and better quality public spaces in the city, instead they want to build new structures which can create an income. An income for the private owners of those buildings and not to the benefit of the wider Sheffield community. This is the only opportunity to solve this severe limitation of Sheffield railway station, once the site is redeveloped the chaotic situation for drop pff/pick ups will be set in place to continue for years to come and will continue to discourage travel by train.

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First, use it to fix the vehicle access to the station - ideally to separate taxi and non-taxi traffic (again!) and put in proper bike lane access; Second, open up the Porter Brook; Third, if we need a building (possibly elevated to solve 1 and 2) then something architecturally distinctive and functionally useful (hotel/office etc.) that joins people across the station-Showroom-university space. At the moment it just feels like a long walk...

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I don't know why they moved the taxi rank and cars together which caused the traffic jam. They used to be the other side of the entrance.

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Getting to the station with luggage is really only feasible by taxi or private car. Solving the traffic chaos at the station should be top priority for whatever happens with this land. It shouldn't be impossible to find a way to provide safe and easy access to the station for buses, taxis, cars, bikes and pedestrians. It should be possible to come up with something that has something for everyone. But it probably won't happen. Because it rarely does.

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Well whatever they do with the space, I hope it’s not the installation of something like the “McCabe Pyramid”. It looks awful in so many ways!!! 😧

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